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Torque Values
Translate between part numbers and description for many MGB fasteners
Links:
'Fastener Decoder Booklet' A reproduction of the document produced by BMC in 1964, kindly sent to me by Marc.
Hex Bolt Head Markings from Unified Engineering Inc.
MGB Bolt Sizes/Taps and Dies by Les Bengtson
MGB 18V Engine Bolt Sizes by Les Bengtson
Whitworth sizes and numbers from Samstag Sales.
British Tools and Fasteners, which says it all really (the original link was to The British Tool Company which has been out of business a couple of years.
Rask Cycle on bolt head markings and torque figures.
Uni-Thread, for taps, dies, reamers and much more.
Tracy Tools ditto (funnily enough also in Devon).
Abbey Power Tools, which has Whitworth and BA spanners as well as much else.
Precision Screw and Bolt, conversion charts for UNC and UNF decimals and diameters and Metric equivalents, e.g. UNF No.10 is 0.190" which is very close to 3/16" or 4.826mm, which equates to M5

Torque Values

Nuts and bolts can be assembled with dry, oiled or greased threads. From comparisons made with generic sources of information it seems that the figures in the MG Workshop Manual, at least, are probably for oiled threads. Greasing threads can make them liable to come loose. For example I read many years ago that wheel studs should be oiled, not greased.

Although there are a lot of figures here there are still a lot more where no torque figure is given. It is possible that those given here are 'non-standard' torque values and the rest should be tightened to the 'standard' values for the type, size and thread of the nut and bolt. A chart of these 'standard' values is given on this Geno's Garage web page, and another set from Alma Bolt Company & Prime Fasteners.

Also see this list of 'standard' values from the Rover V8 Engine Manual:

METRIC
M5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4 Nm (3 ft-lb.)
M6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .6 Nm (4.5 ft-lb.)
M8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18 Nm (13 ft-lb.)
M10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 35 Nm (26 ft-lb.)
M12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65 Nm (48 ft-lb.)
M14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80 Nm (59 ft-lb.)
M16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .130 Nm (96 ft-lb.)
UNC / UNF
1/4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8-10 Nm (6-7 ft-lb.)
5/16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25 Nm (18.5 ft-lb.)
3/8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 Nm (29.5 ft-lb.)
7/16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75 Nm (55 ft-lb.)
1/2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 90 Nm (66 ft-lb.)
5/8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 135 Nm (100 ft-lb.)

By Monte Morris.
Additions by Peter Scott.
MBG GT V8 Workshop Manual Supplement and Rover V8 Engine Manual.
Additions from Haynes.

ApplicationEngineTorque (ft-lb.)Comments
Engine (4-cyl)   
Main bearing nuts All models 70 
Flywheel set screws 18G/18GA 40 
Gudgeon pin clamp bolts 18G/18GA 25 early models(CBB)
Big-end bolts  +35 to 40 early models(CBB)
Big-end bolts  33 later models (RBB) oiled thread
Cylinder head nuts 18G/18GA 45 to 50 
Rocker bracket nuts All models 25 
Oil pump to crankcase All models 14 
Sump to crankcase All models 6 
Cylinder side cover screws 18G/18GA 2 
Cylinder side cover screws deep cover 18G/18GA 5 
Timing cover 1/4 inch screws 18G/18GA 6 
Timing cover 5/16 inch screws 18G/18GA 14 
Rear plate 5/16 inch screws All models 20 
Rear plate 3/8 inch screws All models 30 
Water pump to crankcase  25 early models(CBB)
Water pump to crankcase  17 later models (RBB)
Water outlet elbow nuts 18G/18GA 8 
Rocker cover nuts 18G/18GA 4 
Manifold nuts All models 15 to 16 
Oil filter centre bolt 18G/18GA 15 early models(CBB)
Clutch to flywheel All models 25 to 30 
Carburettor stud nuts 18G/18GA 2 
Carburettor stud nuts All models 15 
Distributor clamp bolt (nut trapped) 18G/18GA 4 
Distributor clamp bolt (bolt trapped) 18G/18GA 2 to 3 
Fan blade fixing screws 18G/18GA 7 to 9 
Crankshaft pulley nuts All models 70 
Camshaft nut All models 60 to 70 
Oil pipe banjo All models 37 max 
Front plate 5/16 inch screws All models 20 
Rear engine mounting bolt All models 38 to 40 
Oil pressure relief valve domed nut All models 43 Pre-1978
Oil pressure relief valve domed nut All models 40 1978 on
Rocker bracket nuts All models 25 
Air pump mounting screws  18 
Spark plugs All models 18 
ENGINE (Factory V8)   
Main bearing cap bolts: Nos. 1 to 4 53 
                                    Rear 68 
Connecting rod cap nuts 33 
Cylinder head bolts 68 
Rocker shaft to cylinder head bolts 28 
Flywheel bolts 55 
Oil pump cover bolts 13WARNING! I got mine up to about 10 and they didn't seem to want to go higher. Bearing in mind they are going into the alloy front cover I stopped. If you look at the 'Other V8' figures there are two - 9ftlb and for Suffix B 3ftlb. 3 seems a bit low for oil under pressure even with Loctite, but 9 is definitely safer than 13.
Oil pressure relief valve plug 33 
Timing chain cover bolts 23 
Crankshaft pulley bolt 150 
Distributor drive gear to camshaft bolt 43 
Exhaust manifold bolts 13 
Induction manifold bolts 28 
Induction manifold gasket clamp bolt 13 
Carburettor adapter nuts 18 
Water pump bolts: 1/4 U.N.C. 7 
                             5/16 U.N.C. 17 
ENGINE (Other V8)   
Crankshaft pulley boltAll models199 
Timing cover to cylinder block bolts **All models16 
Camshaft gear boltAll models37 
Rocker cover boltsAll models6 
Rocker shaft to cylinder head boltsAll models28 
Cylinder head bolts *Not suffix B  
Outer rowNot suffix B51 
Centre rowNot suffix B66 
Inner rowNot suffix B66 
Cylinder head bolts *Suffix B  
Stage 1Suffix B15 
Stage 2Suffix BThen 90° 
Stage 3Suffix BFurther 90° 
Lifting eye to cylinder head boltsAll models18 
Connecting rod boltsAll models37 
Main bearing cap bolts ***All models52 
Rear main bearing cap bolts ***All models66 
Flywheel boltsAll models59 
Drive plate and ring gear assembly boltsAll models30 
Drive plate adapter boltsAll models59 
Oil sump drain plugAll models30 
Oil sump boltsAll models17 
Oil pressure relief plugAll models33 
Oil pump cover to timing coverAll models9 
Oil pump cover plate screws ****Suffix B3 
Oil strainer boltsAll models7 
Distributor clamp boltAll models15 
Spark plugAll models11 
Coolant pump/timing cover to cylinder blockAll models16 
* Lightly oil threads prior to assembly.
** Coat first three threads with Loctite 242 prior to assembly.
*** Coat threads with lubricant EXP16A (Marston Lubricants) prior to assembly.
**** Coat threads with Loctite 222 prior to assembly.
Rear Axle   
Differential bearing cap bolts 4-cyl60 to 65 three-quarter floating axle
Pinion bearing nut  135 to 140 three-quarter floating axle
Crown wheel to differential carrier  55 to 60 three-quarter floating axle
Bearing retaining nut  180 three-quarter floating axle
Half-shaft nut  150 Semi floating axle tighten to align to next hole
Differential bearing cap bolts  50 to 55 semi- floating axle
 Factory V853 
Crown wheel bolts 4-cyl60 to 65 
 Factory V863 
Pinion nut new spacer only  180 to 220 
Pinion nut oil seal change  Adjust to preload see section Ha Bentley
and Leyland Workshop Manual
Rear Suspension   
Rear shock absorber bolts 4-Cyl55 to 60 
Shock absorber to side-member nutFactory V858 
Front Suspension   
Front shock absorber bolts All models 43 to 45 
Brake disc to hub All models 40 to 45 
Brake caliper mounting All models 40 to 45 
Brake caliper clamping bolts All models 35.5 to 37Spotted by Ed Woods in the main body of the manual: "Only split the caliper if it is unavoidable, then replace the fluid channel seal, bolts and lock plates. Only bolts supplied by BMC Service Ltd. may be used"
Bearing retaining nut All models 40 tighten to next split-pin hole
Cross member to body 4-cyl54 to 56 
Cross member to side member nut: TopFactory V855 
                                                      BottomFactory V845 
Shock absorber pinch bolt All models 28 
Wishbone cross bolt All models 28 
Bottom wishbone pivot to cross-member nutFactory V845 
Anti roll bar link All models 60 
Spring pan nuts and screws All models 22 
Stiff nut to crossmember mounting bolt  44 to 46 GHN4 GHD4 GHD5 GHN5 models
King pin to wishbone - lower fulcrum  45  
King pin to damper - upper fulcrum  40  
King pin trunnion (nut on top of king pin)  60 then tighten to next split-pin hole
Steering   
Steering arm bolts All models 60 to 65 
Steering rack fixings  30 
Steering wheel nut 4-cyl41 to 43 
Steering wheel nut 9/16 in. UNF 4-cyl27 to 29 GHN4 GHD4 GHD5 GHN5 models
Steering wheel nut 11/16 in. UNF 4-cyl41 to 43 GHN4 GHD4 GHD5 GHN5 models
Steering wheel nut 4-cyl36 to 38 GHN4 GHD4 GHD5 GHN5 some local models
Steering wheel nutFactory V828 
Steering column universal joint bolts All models 20 to 22 
Steering rack and pinion bearing nut All models 40 
Steering tie-rod lock nut All models 33 to 38 
Steering lever balljoint nut All models 34 to 35 
Swivel pin nut All models 60 tighten to align to next hole
Steering column top fixing bolts All models 12 to 17 
Column clamp boltFactory V87Note this is given in the manual as "85 lbf inches"
Road wheel nuts 4-cyl60 to 65 
Road wheel nutsFactory V860 
Transmission/Gearbox   
Mounting to gearbox case  15 to 20 manual transmission
Drive flange nut without overdrive  150 manual transmission
Drive flange nut overdrive Type D  100 to 130 manual transmission
Drive flange nut overdrive Type LH  55 to 60 manual transmission
Front brake band adj. screw locknut  15 to 20 automatic transmission
Rear brake band adj. screw locknut  25 to 30 automatic transmission
Filler tube to transmission case  20 to 30 automatic transmission
Filler tube to connector sleeve nut  17 to 18 automatic transmission
Drive flange nut  55 to 60 automatic transmission
Center support bolts  10 to 18 automatic transmission
Converter to drive plate bolts  25 to 30 automatic transmission
Transmission case to converter housing  8 to 13 automatic transmission
Extension housing to transmission case  8 to 13 automatic transmission
Oil pan to gearbox  8 to 13 automatic transmission
Front servo bolts  8 to 13 automatic transmission
Rear servo bolts  13 to 27 automatic transmission
Pump adaptor to housing screw  2 to 3 automatic transmission
Pump adaptor to housing bolts  17 to 32 automatic transmission
Pump adaptor to transmission case  8 to 18 automatic transmission
Manual shaft locknut  7 to 9 automatic transmission
Pressure adaptor plug  4 to 5 automatic transmission
Drain plug  8 to 10 automatic transmission
Upper valve body to lower valve body scr  20 to 30 automatic transmission
Lower valve body to upper valve body scr  20 to 30 automatic transmission
Oil tube and end plate to valve body  20 to 30 automatic transmission
Valve bodies to transmission case bolts  5 to 9 automatic transmission
Cam bracket screws  20 to 40 automatic transmission
Governor to counterweight screws  4 to 5 automatic transmission
Governor to cover plate screws  20 to 48 automatic transmission
Front servo adjusting screw locknut  15 to 20 automatic transmission
Rear servo adjusting screw locknut  25 to 30 automatic transmission
Starter inhibitor switch locknut  4 to 6 automatic transmission
Downshift cable adaptor bolts  8 to 9 automatic transmission
Filler tube connector to transmission  20 to 30 automatic transmission
Stone guard screws  17 to 19 automatic transmission
Driving flange nut  55 to 60 automatic transmission
Propeller shaft flange nuts All models 30 to 35 
General   
Hydraulic brake pipe connection 3/8 UNF  5 to 7 
Hydraulic brake pipe connect 7/16 UNF  7 to 10 
Master cylinder port adaptors  33 later models (RBB)
Master cylinder reservoir fixing bolts All models 5 
Brake pressure failure switch (nylon)  15  
Brake pressure failure switch end plug All models 200 
Brake caliper securing bolts All models 40 to 45 
Brake front servo bolts All models 8 to 13 
Brake rear servo bolts All models 13 to 27 
Brake stone guard screws All models 17 to 19 
Pressure differential switch end plug  17 later models (RBB)
Alternator shaft nut All models 25 to 30 
Alternator mounting bolt All models 20 
Alternator pulley nut All models 25 
Starter motor mounting bolts All models 30 
Gearbox remote control cover to tunnel All models 44 to 46 
Interior mirror special screw All models 5 

Speedos

There were many different speedos used over the years (I have found 50 so far!) according to year market and vehicle spec. As well as the obvious physical differences in size and markings the 'turns per mile' (TPM) varied over the years that is the number of turns of the speedo cable to register a mile travelled. This has to be matched to the drive gearing in the gearbox output shaft the rear axle ratio the wheel size and to some extent the tyre size. Get the TPM wrong and both speed and distance travelled indications will be incorrect. Speed is relatively easy to compensate for by making internal adjustments but to correct the odometer different gear sets are required. The table below has been developed largely from the Leyland Parts Catalogue and Clausager and examination of many speedos at autojumbles with additional information from other sites such as NAMGBR 'MGB Shop' Autochart and Paul Tegler. However these other sites either don't include TPM figures are limited in scope or disagree by some amount with information from other sources.

I am indebted to Ian John of Caerbont Automotive Instruments for supplying me with a list of TPMs for these speedos.

Note that speedos not in the list with the exact reference number, even though they have the correct TPM figure, may have different speedo cable fitments or night-time illumination or fitting arrangements, making fitting them in an MGB difficult.

Speedometer Reference Numbers
   Chassis No.      
MarketDateBodyFromToGearbox Part No.Serial No.TPMComments
All markets
except Germany
1962-Oct67 101138400StandardMPHBHA4478SN6125/04,
SN6125/04A,
SN6144/00
1060*
1040?
1040*
Jaeger Note 1
Smiths Note 13
Smiths
      KPHBHA4479SN6125/05,
SN6125/05A,
SN6144/01
660*
660!
660*
Jaeger
Smiths
Smiths
     OverdriveMPHBHA4480SN6125/06,
SN6125/06A,
SN6144/02
1040*
1020!
1020*
Jaeger
Note 1
Smiths
Smiths
      KPHBHA4481SN6125/07,
SN6125/07A,
SN6144/03
640!
640!
640!
Jaeger
Smiths
Smiths
Germany1962-Oct67 101138400Standard?MPHBHA4574SN6144/051040560-14 tyres
     Standard?KPHBHA4636SN6144/15660560-14 tyres
     Standard?KPHBHA4637SN6144/13660155-14 tyres
     OD?KPHBHA4638SN6144/14640165-14 tyres
not Canada,
USA, Sweden,
Germany, or V8
Nov67-Nov73Roadster
GT
138401
138401
332925
332394
StandardMPHBHA4707SN6144/201280*Note 12
      KPHBHA4709SN6144/21800!Note 12
use BHA5280
     OverdriveMPHBHA4812SN6144/23A1280*Note 12
use BHA5281
      KPHBHA4813SN6144/24800!Note 12
 Nov67-Sep68 138401158230AutomaticMPHBHA4707SN6144/201280*Note 12
      KPHBHA4709SN6144/21800!Note 12
 Nov68-Aug73 158231328800AutomaticMPHBHA4868SN6144/281216Note 11
      KPHBHA4869SN6144/29760Note 11
 Nov73-Sep74Roadster
GT
332926
332395
360300
361000
StandardMPHBHA5279SN6144/20BS1280!Note 12
      KPHBHA5280SN6144/21BS800!Note 12
     OverdriveMPHBHA5281SN6144/23BS1280*Note 12
      KPHBHA5282SN6144/24BS800!Note 12
 Sep74-Jun76 360301410350BothMPHBHA5339SN5230/131000*Note 12, 80mm
     BothKPHBHA5340SN5230/14620!Note 12, 80mm
CanadaNov67-Jul68 138401153877StandardMPHBHA4707SN6144/201280*Note 12
      KPHBHA4709SN6144/21800!Note 12
use BHA5280
     OverdriveMPHBHA4812SN6144/23A1280*Note 12
use BHA5281
      KPHBHA4813SN6144/24800!Note 12
 Aug68-Jul71 153878258000StandardMPH37H 3766SN5226/03,
SN5226/05,
SN5227/07
1280!
1280!
1280!
80mm
     OverdriveMPH37H 3768SN5226/08,
SN5227/12
1280!
1280!
80mm
     AutomaticMPH37H 4180SN5227/16121680mm
 Aug71-Apr72 258001282419StandardMPHBHA5084SN5231/001280! 
     OverdriveMPHBHA5086SN5231/041280! 
 May72-Sep74 282420360300StandardMPHBHA5161SN5230/06S1280! 
     OverdriveMPHBHA5163SN5230/08S1280! 
 Sep74-Jun76 360301410000BothMPHBHA5339SN5230/131000* 
 Jun76-1978 410001?BothMPHAAU 3027SN5373/001000! 
Canada & Japan1978-1979 ??BothKPH??620?Note 2
Canada & Japan1980 ?onBothKPH??620?Note 2
USA,
USA for Germany
Nov67-Jul71 138401258000StandardMPH37H 3766SN5226/03,
SN5226/05,
SN5227/07
1280!
1280!
1280!
80mm
     OverdriveMPH37H 3768SN5226/08,
SN5227/12
1280!
1280!
80mm
     AutomaticMPH37H 4180SN5227/161216!80mm
 Aug71-Apr72 258001282419StandardMPHBHA5084SN5231/001280!Note 10
     OverdriveMPHBHA5086SN5231/041280!Note 10
 May72-Sep74 282420360300StandardMPHBHA5161SN5230/06S1280! 
     OverdriveMPHBHA5163SN5230/08S1280! 
 Sep74-Jun76 360301410000BothMPHBHA5339SN5230/131000* 
USA
Jun76-Jun79
 410001498440 (Cal)
503520 (Fed)
BothMPHAAU
3027
SN5373/001000!Note 3
 Jun79-Oct80 498441 (Cal)
503521 (Fed)
onBothMPH?SRM6006/001000!Note 4
Sweden,
Germany
Sep69-Jul71 187211258000StandardKPHBHA4924SN5227/20800!Note
10
     OverdriveKPHBHA4925SN5227/22800!Note 10
     AutomaticKPHBHA4926SN5227/24740Note 10
 Aug71-Apr72 258001282419OverdriveKPHBHA5087SN5231/08800!Note 10
 May72-Sep74 282420360300OverdriveKPHBHA5164SN5230/09S800!Note 5
 Sep74-Jun76 360301410000BothKPH??620?Note 6
RHD (not Police)Jun76-Oct78Roadster
GT
410001
410001
480296
481115
OverdriveMPHAAU
3035
SN5234/001000*Note 7
RHD (not Police)Oct78-Oct80Roadster
GT
480297
481116
on
on
OverdriveMPH SN5234/021000*Note 8
RHD (Police)Jun76-Oct80 410001onOverdriveMPHAAU 3036Z 654651040! 
V8 (not Police)Dec72-Jul76 1012903OverdriveMPHBHA5210SN5230/11S960*80mm,
140mph
V8 (Police)Dec72-Jul76 1012903OverdriveMPHBHA5317Z 63973980!Note 9
 
Notes: A * after the TPM indicates that I have confirmed the figure on an actual example of the speedo and the number has been confirmed by a manufacturer and repairer of the instruments.
A ! after the TPM indicates the number has been confirmed by a repairer of the instruments.
 1The Parts Catalogue shows these serial numbers as having the same part number but actual instruments and manufacturers data show different TPMs.
 2Clausager shows Canada and Japan having KPH speedos from 1978, and Canada and Japan 1980 models having 6-digit odometer, but these changes are not shown in the Parts Catalogue.
 3North American spec including Japan had 4 speedos for 1977 on, probably plastic 'glass' with protruding trip reset button.
 485mph speedos with 6-digit odometer, not in Parts Catalogue.
 5Parts List shows this type continuing till Jun76
 6Clausager states 80mm from Sep74 LHD roadsters only made for North American market after Jun76
 7Reads to 120mph, additional kph markings. Figures outside markings, numbers go 10/20/30.
 8Reads to 120mph, additional kph markings. Figures inside markings, numbers go 10/30/50.
 9XA5(XAS?),175x14 tyres, 80mm, 140mph
 10Use with right-angle drive
 11Axle ratio changed and hence speedo
 12KPH 620 turns per kilometer have the same gearing as MPH 1000 turns per mile speedos, similarly KPH 800 and MPH 1280.
 13In Parts Catalogue as SN6124/04A.

Added March 2008
And now for the question of speedo gear ratios! Whereas for the 3-synch cars the speedo tpms varied between non-OD and OD cars (but by less than 2%) the speedos for 4-synch cars quote the same tpms (1280 for chrome bumper cars and 1000 for rubber bumper) but there are still different part and reference numbers for the speedos according to whether the car was non-OD or OD. This continued up to September 76 and the 77 model year, when suddenly there is only one speedo (different again for the 'new' plastic dash) for LHD and one for RHD, still at 1000tpm as for previous rubber bumper cars, but no corresponding change in gearboxes or ODs.

Looking at the parts lists there always were different speedo drive gears and pinions, with different ratios, between non-OD and OD. But whereas the ratio difference is nearly 3% for the 3-synch gearboxes, it is only 1% for the chrome bumper 4-synch (I don't have all the ratio information for the rubber bumper cars). 1% is insignificant (given that speedos in the UK are allowed to over-read by up to 10% but not under-read) so having the same tpms for both is reasonable, but why the different speedo part and reference number if everything else is the same? Even 3% difference for the 3-synch is not that significant in the grand scheme of things, but the speedo tpms for non-OD and OD cars did take this into account. Although even that isn't straight-forward, as the information I have is that Jaeger instruments were 1060 for non-OD and 1040 for OD, whereas the later (1964) Smiths were 1040 for non-OD and 1020 for OD! Whilst the change from crossply tyres to radial may have required a change in gearing, radials weren't available until 1965, and crossplys remained standard on UK cars until 1972.

The bottom line is that while changing a non-OD gearbox to an OD gearbox will introduce an error of nearly 3%, on a 4-synch car changing from a non-OD to an OD gearbox of the same era will only introduce a 1% error and can be ignored. the important thing to remember on 4-synch cars is that if you put a rubber bumper OD gearbox in a chrome bumper car or vice-versa, and don't change the speedo, you will introduce an error of around 20% which is very significant.

And to finally beat this subject to death the table below lists the various gearboxes and what speedo drive gears and pinions were used in each:

EraChassis No.Engine No.GearboxGearStartsPinionTeethRatio
Chrome101 to
138360 (roadster)
137795 (GT)
18G, GA, GB3-synch non-OD
(dipstick level/filler)
1H3369911G3264 or
22H1420L
(NLA)
281:3.111
Chrome101 to
138360 (roadster)
137795 (GT)
18G, GA, GB3-synch OD
D-type
(dipstick level/filler)
7H8294517H8021161:3.2
Chrome138401 (roadster)
139471 (GT) to
359169 (roadster)
360069 (GT)
18GF-GK,
18V581-779
4-synch non-OD
(dipstick level/filler)
22B468
(metal) or
22B649
(plastic)
1022B654261:2.6
Chrome138401 (roadster)
139471 (GT) to
359169 (roadster)
360069 (GT)
18GF-GK,
18V581-779
4-synch OD
LH-type
(black label)
(dipstick level/filler)
37H3464
(blue)
837H3463
(white)
211:2.625
Rubber360301 (roadster)
361001 (GT) to
523001 (roadster)
523002 (GT)
18V797-8934-synch non-OD
(side-plug level/filler)
DAM686
(black)
9DAM687
(NLA)
see Notesee Note
Rubber360301 (roadster)
361001 (GT) to
523001 (roadster)
523002 (GT)
18V797-8934-synch OD
LH-type
(blue label)
(side-plug level/filler)
37H8844
(red)
637H8845
(red)
201:3.333
Note: Values not known, but if the overall ratio is the same for non-OD as OD (which seems reasonable as the same speedo is used) then the pinion would have 30 teeth.

Added March 2010: Did I say final? Speedo cables used were as follows:

Chassis No. GearboxCableLengthNotes
101-9402
101-138400
RHD
LHD
non-ODGSD1031143mm (3' 9)It seems highly unlikely, if not impossible, for RHD and LHD cables to be the same length
101-10611RHDODGSD1161422mm(4' 8) 
101-138400
10612-138400
LHD
RHD
ODGSD1171542mm(5' 0)It seems highly unlikely, if not impossible, for RHD and LHD cables to be the same length
9402-138400RHDnon-ODGSD1111219mm(4' 0) 
138401-410000RHDnon-ODGSD249991mm(3' 3) 
138401-410000RHDODGSD1161422mm(4' 8) 
138401-153877 (Canada)
138401-187210 (roadster)
138401-187840 (GT)
LHDnon-ODBHA45961270mm(4' 2) not USA, Sweden, Germany
138401-153877 (Canada)
138401-187210 (roadster)
138401-187840 (GT)
LHDODGSD1511829mm(6' 0) not USA, Sweden, Germany
138401-282419 (USA)
153878-282419 (Canada)
LHDnon-ODGSD1041373mm(4' 6)North America, Sweden, Germany, without service indicator
138401-187840 (USA)
153878-187840 (Canada)
LHDODGSD1511829mm(6' 0)North America, Sweden, Germany, without service indicator
187211-328800RHDAutoGSD1031143mm (3' 9) 
187211-328800LHDAutoGSD1161422mm(4' 8) not USA, Sweden, Germany
187211-328800LHDAutoGSD1171542mm(5' 0)North America, Sweden, Germany, without service indicator
282420-410000LHDnon-ODGSD145 North America, Sweden, Germany, without service indicator
360301-386600 (Canada)
360301-422791
LHDnon-ODBHA5351 North America, Sweden, Germany, gearbox to service indicator
360301-386600 (Canada)
360301-422791
LHDODBHA5360 North America, Sweden, Germany, gearbox to service indicator
360301-386600 (Canada)
360301-422791
LHDallBHA5359 North America, Sweden, Germany, service indicator to speedo
410001 onRHD (all)ODGSD3151450mm(4' 9) 
410001 onLHDnon-ODAAU38681200mm(3' 11)without service indicator
410001 onLHDODAAU38701700mm(5' 7)without service indicator
All V8RHDODGSD1161422mm(4' 8") 

There is also the question of right-angle drives.

The Parts Catalogues show all cars as having one at the gearbox end (13H 2567) to allow the cable to run alongside the gearbox as it travels forwards. However neither of my cars has one, the cable making a neat enough turn through 90 degrees here, however this may need a slightly longer cable to avoid a tight turn.

The big issue is whether LHD cars had an additional one at the speedo head or not. Again the Parts Catalogues indicate one was always used (BHA 4794 up to 76, the same 13H 2567 as for the gearbox for 77 on), because the cable came up through the same hole in the bulkhead (above the clutch foot rest) as in RHD cars then across the car behind the dash. This would have resulted in too tight a turn behind the speedo in the limited space available, hence the second unit. However some people have indicated their cable goes through the bulkhead in front of the driver, then goes across and down via some unspecified route, which renders a right-angle drive uneccessary, including 3-synch cars using the large hole under the hinge slot. Clausager appears to show a 74 car routed in this manner, but using a smaller hole further above and towards the centre of the car than the large hole (which contains the heat control cable?).

What year is my MG?

By John H. Zajac

Often the question comes up regarding "What year is my MG?" with the early cars. Cars built in 1951 or even 1950 are titled as "1952" TD's for example. Early MGB's built in 1962 or 3 may be listed as 1963 or 1964s. Owners of early cars are especially urged to know their VIN numbers in order to get the correct original equipment. Why?

My understanding of the situation is that the "model year" was an American primarily GM invention. In the 1930's GM's chairman Alfred Sloan began the practice to showcase annual styling changes. Soon every other US manufacturer followed suit and the concept of a "model year" starting in the fall of the year started.

This system was alien to most European manufacturers including MG. VW even used their rather stable product plan to their advantage with the Beetle's advertising in the States. The European manufacturers basically updated their cars when required for competitive reasons and only loosely followed a "model year" concept. MG up until the late sixties was like this hence the issue with when was it built when was it sold what year is it anyway what do I put on the title? Early cars had model years "designated" by the dealer. It was a world where model years were ingrained into American paperwork registration and titles (after all who couldn't tell the difference between a '59 Chevy and a '60?) but with imports from Europe well it was a different story. The dealer typically filled out the paperwork so that a car sold in the model year (October to October) was of that model year regardless of date of manufacture.

What changed that "system" was the safety and emissions regulations which phased in requirements by model years for cars sold in the US. Once that occurred all the European manufacturers had to follow US procedures for VINs and linking US-destined cars to specific model years and levels of safety and emissions equipment. Of course old habits are hard to break and while I'm sure MG put in all legally required equipment I've heard how sometimes earlier parts sometimes ended up in the next model year's cars on occasion.

So- it's not unusual for cars exported to the States sold prior to 1967 (I think that's when the first safety/emissions laws became effective) to have wildly different dates of manufacture vs. model year on their title and why after that a system was imposed on the VIN designation. Later cars therefore will have their model year "baked into" the VIN regardless of the date for manufacture. It's easy to imagine how MG would have had to have been building the next year's model in late spring or early summer in order to be in showrooms in the U.S. by the fall.

© John H. Zajac
reproduction permitted by author provided authorship & copyright acknowledged

From 'Original MGB with MGC and GT V8' by Clausager

True VINs including the model year only appeared on the very last MGBs - those built between June 1979 and October 1980. Before that car or chassis (UK) or serial (North America) numbers of the form 'G-HN5/nnnnnn-G' (for an MG 1800cc engine two-seater tourer 69-79 model built at Abingdon) were used. In the UK a vehicle's 'year' is generally regarded by owners as the date it was first registered the exception being for inclusion in the 'Historic' registration class and its free annual Road Fund Licence or Tax Disc where the cut-off date (31st December 1972) relates to the date of manufacture rather than the date of first registration.

Clausager refers to 'model years' from 1969 on which started production in November 1968. Thereafter the new model year could start production at any time from May 1978 (for the 1979 model year) to December 1974 (for the 1975 model year) but was typically August or September. 1974 saw another main change-point in September for the '1974 1/2' model year cars and the full rubber bumpers. Small changes appeared constantly throughout production however. The changeover points listed by chassis/serial number could be a little chaotic as 'old' parts were used up before 'new' parts were used. Therefore it was common for a car with a chassis/serial number before the change point to have some parts that should only have appeared after the change point and vice-versa. The only thing that could be said for sure is that as far as is known matched items were fitted i.e. you wouldn't get a car with one 1976 headlight and one 1977!

Dating your car by its windows - based on the original compiled by Neil Cairns. Updated October 2008

MG's made in the 1950's to the late 1970's can be dated by the 'TRIPLEX CODE' etched into or screen printed onto the toughened glass. This also works for any other make using TRIPLEX glass.

Note that it dates the GLASS, so is only an indication of the cars age, assuming the glass is original.

If you are not quite sure of the year of your car, but the decade is known, just look for dots above and below the TRIPLEX TOUGHENED or LAMINATED logo on the glass. Unfortunately it is complicated by the code system changing in January 1969.

Before January 1969 one dot above T, R, E or X gives the quarter of the year the glass was manufactured:
T = Jan, Feb, March
R = April, May, June
E = July, Aug, Sept
X = Oct, Nov, Dec

From January 1969 the code indicated the month not the quarter, and although the same four letters were used there could be one, two or three dots used:


       .                                       :    .
Jan    TRIPLEX (dot over the T)        Jul     TRIPLEX
        .                                      :     .
Feb    TRIPLEX (dot over the R)        Aug     TRIPLEX
            .                                  .     :
Mar    TRIPLEX                         Sep     TRIPLEX
             .                                  .    :
Apr    TRIPLEX                         Oct     TRIPLEX
       :                                            .:
May    TRIPLEX (double dot over T)     Nov     TRIPLEX
       :.                                            :
Jun    TRIPLEX                         Dec     TRIPLEX
But which year? Nine letters make the word TOUGHENED, one dot below a letter gives the year of the decade:
T = 1, O = 2, U = 3 and so on. However, if you see no dot (or possibly a dot under a space after the last letter), the year is zero.

Say your car is a 1950's MG, then TRiplEX TOUGHENED, with one dot over the 'R' in Triplex, and the other under the last 'E' in Toughened, indicates 'April/May/June 1958'.

My 75 GT has Sicursive side glass but a Triplex heated back-light with a dot over the E and one under the G, indicating March 74. The car has a build date of May 1975, so you can see that glass (and quite probably other components) could be hanging round for some time before being used - no Just In Time then!

My thanks to Pierre De Rijck of Belgium for questioning this information when he found multiple dots on his windows, as originally the information from Neil only indicated one dot. The additional info came from these Spitfire and Mini sites. However it should be noted that these two differ for 1969 and later for the months of March and April. The former shows the dots over the I and P of TRIPLEX whereas the latter shows then over the E and X as previously. As both sites show only the E and X letters being used in all other cases, I'm tempted to think the Triumph site is in error and have assumed such. Pierre also mentioned his two side windows had different codes. This could have been due to breakage in the past, but in his case the two codes seem to be consecutive months in the same year and so are more likely to be from two production batches rather than one. If LHS and RHS glasses are made, packed and shipped separately rather than as pairs this is more then likely, especially given the apparent gap between manufacture and fitting. Less so if the glasses were shipped as pairs, but still possible if one were damaged or a defect found during the build of the car.

Links

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The following sites carry information on a variety of topics:

So good it deserves a line of its own right at the top - a set of 'How to' videos from John Twist and University Motors
six lots from the MGOC
from Paul Kile Paul Lewis and Norm Nock all of the Sacremento Valley MG Car Club
Barney Gaylord's 'The MGA with an attitude' - mainly MGA but some details and much general information will be applicable to the MGB. MGA and MGB technical information from British Automotive
Scions of Lucas (SOL). Technical info for MG and other marques much of the 'other marques' info will also apply to MG to some extent. Skye Poier's 'The MGB Experience' site
Rich Mason's 'Helpzone' Tech Tips from the NAMGBR
Robert Epstein's 'MGB Tech Tips' John and Elaine Hubbard's 'MGB-GT' pages
Chicagoland MG Club - Tech tips for a variety of marques and MG models from Moss Motors (now only available by logging-in)
Parts sources from (Bob?) Lundgren Automobile Repair manuals Online (not)
Robert Bentley manuals MGB Parts List available online from Moss USA. Other MG models and marques available.
Miscellaneous MGB info from AutoChart Inc. Classic car restoration courses at UK Further Education Colleges from Restored Classics
Recalls and Technical Service Bulletins from Alldata Fuel Additives Lubricants and Coolant reference information from Stephen Ringlee's Volvo Maintenance FAQ
UK MOT info from MOTUK (geddit?) UK MOT info from Haynes
Using a vacuum gauge for fault diagnosis. Speedo and tach serial numbers through the years from Anon
More speedo info from Autochart Yet more speedo info from Paul Tegler
Speedo repairs from Anthony Rhodes or as a downloadable PDF Speedo repairers and suppliers Speedograph Richfield successors to Smiths Industries
Bespoke and replacement instruments from Caerbont Automotive Instruments Another on-line Parts Catalogue from Brown and Gammons in the UK
Handy Reference Information from Pegasus Auto Racing - Decimal inch equivalents copper electrical wire specs and more. Smiths and Jaeger speedo repairs from Tigers United
John Twist's Tech Tips hosted by NAMGBR, on a variety of topics.

Body Links:

Bodywork from John Elwood. Paint Codes from Paul Tegler's 'Teglerizer' site
MGB Sills from MGOC MGB and Midget door locks from MGOC
MGB rear seats from MGOC Roadster screen from Lee Daniels (updated link)
MGB Chrome Bumper Conversion sites from Google Body Rotisserie from Bob Beaupre
Body Rotator from Skye Poier 'The Instillation (sic) of Sills & Rockers' from Classic Auto Restoration Services. A commercial site but includes 'How to' and FAQs.
Hood/top fitting from Washington DC Centre MG Car Club Remanufactured bodies from British Motor Heritage
GT heated rear window from MGOC British car keys cut in the USA by Pete Groh.
Brief information on fitting a child seat in the back of a GT. The lap and diagonal static belt from Securon can be found here. NOTE: Check the legality of these in the UK following the change in UK law from 18th September 2006, although it seems that systems with an older BS approval marking will remain legal until May 2008. Other than that it is legal to have an unrestrained child (or two) in the back of a GT, but illegal to have them restrained with an unapproved system.

Brake Links:

Brake service from MGOC Brake fluid from Veteran Triumph Register
Servo overhaul on a TR6 from Buckeye Triumphs. Low brake fluid level warning - note the remote servo can suffer seal failure which causes all the fluid to be sucked out of the master!

Clutch Links:

(None at present)


Cooling Links:

'Advanced Cooling System Basics' (sic) from Stewart Components Kenlowe engine cooling fan from MGOC

Electrics Links:

Smartscreen intermittent wiper control. So good I have them on both my MGBs. Lamp/bulb and fuse info from 'Automotive Lite Bulbs'
More lamp/bulb info from Daniel Stern Lighting including FAQs, Tech info and 'How To'. Note that headlamp aiming shows LHD, reverse the images for RHD. Lots of electrics info on the 'The T*****h TR6 Web' much of which is also relevant to MGs.
Alternator conversions from Bob Muenchausen. Converting 4-cylinder tachs to V8 from the Britsh V8 Forum.
Tach calibration and repair from Mark Olsen's Sunbeam Tiger pages. Includes the circuit diagram of the inductive circuit. Rebuilding a tach with modern electronics from Theo Smit's Tiger pages includes a link to a description of how to modify the inductive tach to work with electronic ignition.
Tip from Crane (may work with other manufacturers products) if your inductive tach (64 to 72) doesn't work with your new electronic ignition. Enlargeable coloured wiring diagrams in PDF format from Advance Auto-wire. These differ from the Workshop Manual Haynes Bentley in that associated components are placed together so reducing the amount of wiring snaking about and hence making them easier to follow.
Lucas relay info on CRC's TVR site. Lucas Technical catalogues for bulbs, switches etc.
Racemettle geared starters, contains useful info on the number of pinion teeth used by each model.

Engine Links:

V8 power for the MGB from Dan Masters MG V8 conversions from Mike Barnes
V8 conversion from Glenn somebody or other More V8 conversion from commercial site V8 Developments
'MGB V8 Conversions by Roger Parker' - a noted authority A Buick V8 conversion by Leon Zak
MG Engines from the TA to the MGF by Neil Cairns BMC engine numbers from 1952 to 1990 also by Neil Cairns. However the section on Gold Seal numbers doesn't include those for the MGB, for which see here.
More info from Neil Cairns, this time on the differences between the 18V engine as used in the MGB and that used in the Marina. Got an 18V engine with a funny number? These were used in the Sherpa van. (Note March 2007: Not currently available but I'll leave this link here for a while in case it comes back.)
Rover V8 engine number ranges from Capri Racing. Doesn't actually include the factory V8 MGB (or the RV8 as far as I know) but may be helpful if you get hold of an engine for a conversion. MGB exhaust from MGOC
Oil change from MGOC Oil filter study from Russ W. Knize.
Engine oil bible from 'The Speed-Trap Bible' by Chris Longhurst. Also see the sections on Snakeoils and Additives. 'More Than You Ever Wanted to Know About Motor Oil ' from The Vintage Triumph Register. Biased towards the makes and grades available in the USA.
Another oil filter study from SHOClub More oil info, this time from a British biker, but mostly applicable to cars. Explanations of viscosity, detergency, relationship between gear and engine oil viscosity ratings, synthetics and additives ("Don't!" in this last case).
Another oil filter study. Two words of warning though - this relates to very high output close-tolerance Ford engines, and to me at least the detailed data conflicts with the conclusions. Compression Tests - from Puma Racing
Engine weights for many marques by Dave Williams, passed to me by Bob Howard. MG 4-cylinders under 'BL', V8 and V6 under 'Rover'. Some engine dimensions, only for the V8 in the case of MG, also some gearbox weights. See here for Workshop manual info. Cylinder-head casting numbers - a frequent source of questions - from British Automotive
MGB cylinder head identification from Sean Brown's Flowspeed.com, mainly for North American spec engines. A little more MGB cylinder head identification info this time from Paul Walbran Motors in New Zealand.

Fuel Links:

Carburettor Models by Year from Paul Tegler's 'Teglerizer' site Setting up SUs from MGOC.
Polishing SU dashpot covers by Paul Tegler Float valves from MGOC
Fuel evaporation/vapour-lock from MGOC 'Living with Unleaded' from Rick Astley
SU Carburettors by Scott Fisher and Roger Garnett Tech info from ZTherapy
THE S.U. VARIABLE CHOKE CARBURETTOR by Malcolm Land - what it is and how it works. SU Carburettor Tips by Jim Taylor from the Jaguar Clubs of North America, including piston 'drop test' specs
Unleaded Fuel - a technical guide from Puma Racing. Detailed pictures of the HIF6 carb linkage pieces on the factory V8 from British Auto.
SU Fuel Pumps description, rebuilding and modification by Dave Dubois. RON MON and PON (American) octane ratings explained from Wikipedia and compared by Mad Mole.
Zenith/Stromberg water choke by Rick Jaskowiak. And for a picture of a manual choke conversion click here. SU/Butec carb data from Peter & Rita Forbes' Engine Webpages.
SU carb and fuel pump parts from SU Burlen. Includes spec data on things like piston springs. The Hitachi-SU Tech Pages from Julian Serles
'Minty Lamb SU Needle Compare-o-rama'. Shades of Wallace and Gromit, but it is an on-line SU needle comparison and selection program. Alternatively a downloadable comparison and selection program from Scott A. Beavis.

Gearbox Links:

Overdrive from MGOC A gearbox testing tool from Kai Radicke
Adding overdrive to a non-overdrive gearbox by Octarine Services Gearbox and axle oil from MGOC
Theoretical Top Speed calculator from mySportsCar. Modifying the rear crossmember to give improved access to the gearbox mount bolts. NB: Not sure if this is strictly necessary if you attach the crossmember to the gearbox before you raise the cross-member up to the chassis rails.

Heater Links:

Heater Valve Improvements for BMC B-Series Engines from Bob Muenchausen's 'Muenchausen's Garage' MGB Heater Rebuild and Upgrade from Chicagoland MG Club

Ignition Links:

High Energy Ignition systems from the Veteran Triumph Register. Coil ballast systems from the Veteran Triumph Register.
Servicing Ignition and Timing from MGOC Lumenition Ignition from MGOC
Distributor curves from Paul Tegler's 'Teglerizer' site Electronic Ignition Systems from Autocar Electrical Equipment Co Ltd
More distributor info from Doug Jackson's 'British Automotive'. Even more distributor info from TDC Engineering many Lucas serial numbers not just MG.
Yet more distributor info from AutoChart Inc. Tuning (as opposed to 'setting-up') Lucas distributors also from TDC Engineering.
A problem and solution when installing electronic ignition systems. Product information for the 123 electronic distributor. For installation and technical data see here.
Transpo supply the electronic module for the 45DM4 distributor. Select 'Ignition Modules', 'Delco', and it is the DM1906. Original-spec advance springs, yes advance springs, from Distributor Doctor, although unfortunately only for 25D and not 45D. Other springs available if you can quote dimensions, also all other distributor parts and a rebuilding service.

Propshaft Links:

Driveline alignment - problems and solutions from Drivetrain Specialists of Las Vegas

Rear Axle Links:

Banjo bearings from MGOC Rear hub seal from MGOC
Gearbox and axle oil from MGOC Wheel hub and rotor/disc measurement points from Wheel Vintiques
Changing the pinion oil seal without damaging the collapsible spacer the easy way from the MGOC. Curing rear axle 'clonk' from the MGOC.

Steering and Suspension Links:

Wheel bearings and discs from MGOC Banjo bearings from MGOC
Road springs from MGOC Rear hub seal from MGOC
Rack gaiters from MGOC Lowering a RB MGB from MGOC
Tube shock conversion from Paul Tegler's 'Teglerizer' site Suspension bible from 'The Speed-Trap Bible' by Chris Longhurst
Performance suspension assembly from MGOC Greasing front suspension from MGOC
Make your own steering column/rack shaft alignment tool. Original link replaced by a section on these pages as more information has come to light, click on the globe then 'Column/Rack Alignment'.

Wheel Links:

Tyre sizes and axle ratios from Skye Poier's 'The MGB Experience' site Tyre sizes and axle ratios from Scott Galaba's BMW M Coupe and Z3 Coupe site.
Wheels and tyres bible from 'The Speed-Trap Bible' by Chris Longhurst Tyre sizing sidewall info construction etc from Dunlop
Tyre Size Comparisons from Club DSM Wheel and Tyre Sizing from AGP Motorsports
Tire/Wheel Combination Calculator from Rick Tolan Lots of stuff on wheels and tyres from the All Morgan site
Solent Wheels, who apparently make a good job of refurbing V8 wheels where the chrome is peeling. They powder-coat the whole wheel silver, then top-coat the alloy with satin black, and polish the areas round the cut-outs, all for £50. I understand they split the centre from the rim and re-rivet in the process. My local wire-wheel rebuilder - Phillips & Son, Unit 3, Seven Stars Road, Oldbury, West Midlands, 0121 544 9060, just a couple of minutes from J2 of the M5. The map (click the globe) has the green arrow close to where they actually are between the canal bridge and the A457, even though that is shown as Park Lane and not Seven Stars Road.
Central Wheel Components. They can make stainless spokes to fit MGB wheels for you to fit but do not work on the wheels themselves, only motorbike wheels. Highly polished they are close to chrome, but are said to resist breakage better. Weights of many wheels, probably all after-market.
British Wire Wheel - based in the USA despite the name. Sell both Dunlop and Dayton so a useful price comparison.

If you know of any sites containing technical information that you would like to see listed here (including your own of course) please mail me with the URL.